point of memetic saturation

From: Kenneth Van Oost (Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be)
Date: Thu Jul 06 2000 - 20:27:37 BST

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    From: "Kenneth Van Oost" <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
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    Dear all,

    Cruising thru' some webpages about Memetic Engineering I stumbled on the
    following article " Selfish Memes and Stranger Things: Fiends or Friends " by
    Wes Biggs. (http://www.cacas.org/~wes/s4b/03-selfish_49d.html)

    There are a few terms mentioned I personally like a lot,

    " Media are the sex cells of culture ", admit, it have a nice ring to it !

    But, the term that moved me is the next,

    quotation,
     
    " When we reach A POINT OF MEMETIC SATURATION, with all ideas on the
    table of collective consciousness, will we enter a new paradigm of evolution, or
    are we, like Frankenstein, destined to have our creations haunt us with unrelen-
    ting demands for life that they cannot have ? " end quotation, used by permission.

    I think this is a very good line of questioning, and I would like to start up the
    disccussion, if you all want of course, with...

    _Point of memetic saturation ! Hmm, I think there are two sides,

    First, a point of saturation as in our brain can take no more !! Can we genetical
    evolve then further to host more memes !?

    Secondly, a point of saturation as in there are no ideas left to be ' memed ' !!
    There are no ideas left to come up. Everything is said and done !

    Questions,
    _if we all die will the memetic evolution continue !? if so, how !?
    _will we enter a new paradigm of evolution !? If so, which !?
    _Will they haunt us !? if so, why !?
    _will we be able to communicate with that ' kind of new life ' !? How !?

    The author of the text will try to join into the discussion.

    Regards,

    Kenneth

    ( I am, because we are) friendly

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