From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Thu 27 Nov 2003 - 09:36:23 GMT
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From: derek gatherer <dgatherer2002@yahoo.co.uk>
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> Keith: Unfortunately it only takes one society with a
> falling income per capita to attack a neighbor and
> when *that* happens, the attacked group has a well
> evolved mechanism to fight back and crush the
> attackers. (And even to lash out at third parties who
> were not your
> attacker but just looked a bit like the ones that
> attacked you.)
>
> Joe: Yep; that's why jihadis are journeying from all
> over the Ummah .... etc
>
> Derek: Come on, Joe, cool it. You've got Keith
> back-to-front. The nation with the falling per capita
> income is Saudi Arabia, as is made clear in Aaron's
> recent article (What am I doing? recommending people
> read Aaron? urgent need coffee......) The nation
> doing the crushing is obviously the USA. The third
> party is obviously Iraq. Nobody is suggsting America
> will be crushed. I'm sure Keith is not making the
> point you seem to think he is making, but rather the
> opposite point.
>
The US's intention (and it will remain the same for the forseeable future,
as long as the threat remains) is not only to crush the attackers (Al
Qaeda), but those who sheltered them (the Taliban) and those from
which they might obtain WMD's or the info, technology and supplies
needed to make them (Saddam, the leading murderer of Muslims in
world history, who also sheltered, supplied, paid and supported
terrorists, used WMD's on both his own people and those of a
neighboring nation, began two wars in two decades, and attempted to
assassinate a former US president, was in a class all his own there, and
with two vicious and conscienceless sons ready to take over and
continue in his footsteps should he have soon died). The co-operating
combination of rogue states with WMD's and global terrorist networks
infected with religio-ideology of world conquest and hatred for all who
are not memetic clones of themselves is not one that the world at large
can interminably abide.
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