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> "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> memetics@mmu.ac.uk Re: Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 18:12:49 -0500
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>>From: "Steve Drew" <srdrew_1@hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>>To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>>Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 22:31:47 +0000
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>>Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 15:38:32 -0000
>>From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk>
>>Subject: RE: Islam's Captive Women
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>> <Atheism. It is impossible. to my mind, to prove or disprove the
>>existence of god, so Atheism is a religion of sorts. This does not stop
>>the
>>>sociobiologists from from asssigning *roles* :-)>
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>> >Atheism means the absence of religious belief, it is in no way
>>equivalent to or the same as a religion. Atheists do not share moral
>>and
>>ethical codes, do not share attitudes towards things like race and
>>gender
>>etc. as a result of their being atheists.<
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>>I was not aware that religions had the same shared attitudes etc.
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>> >Religions claim that it is impossible to prove or disprove the
>>existence of god, and that in itself is a reason to reject them- they
>>reject
>>the notion of falsifiability, and therefore their assertions are
>>irrational.<
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>>Religions do reject the notion of falsifiability, but not the proof of gods
>>existence. "except by faith" etc is their proof, which i agree is not
>>scientific. If you do have a proof of gods non existance, i would love to
>>know as there are always god botherers around i would like to upset.
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Go to:
http://www.philoonline.org/library/index.htm
for some dandy ones.
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> What i
>>meant by atheism having anti women components was as i said, that those of
>>the reductionist sociobiological bent force roles upon males and female,
>>with the females copping for the worst of it.
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>Sociobiology takes a stance on the evolutionary bases of behavior. I don't
>see a necessary relevance for existence/non-exitence of a deity or designer
>in sociobiology. There isn't a likely one to one correpondence between
>sociobiology and atheism. Some atheists might not agree with sociobiology
>and it could be possible for some sort of theistic evolutionist to agree
>with the tenets of sociobiology.
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>>One of my tutors pointed out that agnosticism may be the best choice - God
>>may or may not exist, but i will worry about it only when he knocks on my
>>door.
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>I prefer agnosticism to atheism, the latter tending to take a stronger
>stance on the existence of a deity.
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