Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id UAA01482 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 12 May 2000 20:37:27 +0100 Message-ID: <00c101bfbcb6$833c4c60$03000004@r2z3h3> From: "Tyger" <void@internet-zahav.net.il> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> References: <B6E47FBD3879D31192AD009027AC929C3688DD@NWTH-EXCHANGE> Subject: are memes born of complex systems? Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 10:37:44 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Another issue which seems to hide in the background of this discussion is
the issue of complexity and probability when applied to memetics.
questions that I ponder:
1. is evolution a feature of complex systems? (thus implying the secondary
nature of evolution to the primacy of complexity in nature)
or
2. is complexity a feature of evolution (Thus implying the opposite)
in other words, tackling the egg and chicken meme again. Evolution is an
inevitable part/feature/ principle of the nature of Life, hence Life is by
its own very definition a complex system, predicatble only in statistical
terms. which brings us to the basic question of evolution and memetics. is
the arisal of memes inevitable?
not sure the above counts as a thought anyway, just sharing the ponder..
Tyger.
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