Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id UAA01268 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 12 May 2000 20:10:44 +0100 Message-ID: <B6E47FBD3879D31192AD009027AC929C3688DD@NWTH-EXCHANGE> From: Bruce Jones <BruceJ@nwths.com> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Useless memes Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:15:40 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
You may be right. However this is the most academic and spirited discussion
I have seen on this list since I joined it......
Maybe we have gotten a little carried away. There have been so many
branching and rejoins that they are getting hard to follow. And now we seem
to be getting a little silly .... I love it!!!!!
This type of interplay and exchange of views opens up tremendous avenues of
co-operation and defines this list as a (dare I use the word) society.
I think it has about run its course however. Any NEW topics to bandy
about?????/
Bruce
> -----Original Message-----
> From: daniella [SMTP:daniella@netvision.net.il]
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 1:47 PM
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: Useless memes
>
> Stop the world i want to get off!!
> d.
>
> Bruce Jones wrote:
>
> > A more 'metaphorical' interpretation of the phrase "Don't throw out the
> > baby ..." is seen all to often in today's' paradigm shifts in business.
> >
> > A lot of managers get frustrated with the way things are going in the
> > company so they say "Change it." They start by throwing out the old
> system
> > and starting over with a new one. Things don't work out and they wonder
> > why.
> >
> > They essentially threw out the baby along with the bath water. They
> > destroyed the core beliefs or foundations by discarding the whole
> process.
> > Another way of saying this even though the meaning is a little different
> is
> > "Look before you leap."
> >
> > Bruce Jones
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chuck Palson [SMTP:cpalson@mediaone.net]
> > > Subject: Re: Useless memes
> > >
> > > By this method of analysis, all words have the same problem: they are
> "by
> > > themselves" nonsensical. Most, if not all, words are metaphors that
> point
> > > to
> > > different things through time by shifting the underlying meanings. As
> I
> > > have
> > > pointed out previously, that's why most words have many meanings. So
> it
> > > doesn't
> > > matter if it's words or phrases, a new meaning takes advantage of a
> lot of
> > > the
> > > old meaning to create new meanings. So Agnes was so disgusted with the
> > > dirty
> > > water that she emptied the basin before she realized that her baby was
> in
> > > there.
> > > Well, she WAS drunk, but everyone heard the story, and it lived on as
> a
> > > metaphor
> > > for a general category of event.
> > [BJ]
> > Really???? Hadn't heard that one before.
> >
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