Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id UAA01383 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 12 May 2000 20:27:54 +0100 Message-ID: <391C5ADD.70DFFA1A@netvision.net.il> Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 22:26:21 +0300 From: daniella <daniella@netvision.net.il> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,fr,de,es,it To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Useless memes References: <B6E47FBD3879D31192AD009027AC929C3688DD@NWTH-EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
sorry bruce,
i was reacting to the change - no change content of first chuck's, than your
post.
all those horrid changes - ....
as to the fun and games - lets enjoy them :)
new subject : nothing new under the sun?
oh, but i thought memes were!
any other novelties around? please without too much change!:))
d
Bruce Jones wrote:
> You may be right. However this is the most academic and spirited discussion
> I have seen on this list since I joined it......
> Maybe we have gotten a little carried away. There have been so many
> branching and rejoins that they are getting hard to follow. And now we seem
> to be getting a little silly .... I love it!!!!!
> This type of interplay and exchange of views opens up tremendous avenues of
> co-operation and defines this list as a (dare I use the word) society.
> I think it has about run its course however. Any NEW topics to bandy
> about?????/
> Bruce
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: daniella [SMTP:daniella@netvision.net.il]
> > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 1:47 PM
> > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > Subject: Re: Useless memes
> >
> > Stop the world i want to get off!!
> > d.
> >
> > Bruce Jones wrote:
> >
> > > A more 'metaphorical' interpretation of the phrase "Don't throw out the
> > > baby ..." is seen all to often in today's' paradigm shifts in business.
> > >
> > > A lot of managers get frustrated with the way things are going in the
> > > company so they say "Change it." They start by throwing out the old
> > system
> > > and starting over with a new one. Things don't work out and they wonder
> > > why.
> > >
> > > They essentially threw out the baby along with the bath water. They
> > > destroyed the core beliefs or foundations by discarding the whole
> > process.
> > > Another way of saying this even though the meaning is a little different
> > is
> > > "Look before you leap."
> > >
> > > Bruce Jones
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Chuck Palson [SMTP:cpalson@mediaone.net]
> > > > Subject: Re: Useless memes
> > > >
> > > > By this method of analysis, all words have the same problem: they are
> > "by
> > > > themselves" nonsensical. Most, if not all, words are metaphors that
> > point
> > > > to
> > > > different things through time by shifting the underlying meanings. As
> > I
> > > > have
> > > > pointed out previously, that's why most words have many meanings. So
> > it
> > > > doesn't
> > > > matter if it's words or phrases, a new meaning takes advantage of a
> > lot of
> > > > the
> > > > old meaning to create new meanings. So Agnes was so disgusted with the
> > > > dirty
> > > > water that she emptied the basin before she realized that her baby was
> > in
> > > > there.
> > > > Well, she WAS drunk, but everyone heard the story, and it lived on as
> > a
> > > > metaphor
> > > > for a general category of event.
> > > [BJ]
> > > Really???? Hadn't heard that one before.
> > >
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