Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id TAA18772 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:48:40 GMT Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:43:53 -0500 Subject: Re: playing at suicide Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: Wade Smith <wade_smith@harvard.edu> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <LAW2-F32QaKjNJwFiLR00022135@hotmail.com> Message-Id: <0A672D7C-0927-11D6-B618-003065A0F24C@harvard.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.480) Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Monday, January 14, 2002, at 02:23 , Grant Callaghan wrote:
> Are you saying, then, that animals don't pass memes?
They pass lots of things, but, IMHO, memes ain't one of 'em.
Their behaviors are what they are, devoid of memetic content.
> what tools do they have to do it with other than empanthy and mimicry?
Whether animals possess empathy is another question, mostly
answered, unless one is hopelessly anthropomorphic, in the
negative.
Whether homo sapiens does or not is another question, mostly
answered, unless one is hopelessly cynical, in the positive.
Although there's plenty of evidence for the opposite conclusion.
We certainly would seem to have the capacity to be.
- Wade
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