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From: Douglas Brooker <dbrooker@clara.co.uk>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: taboos
Hi Douglas, sorry for the delay,
Here are the references you asked for.
General political history,
E. Witte & J. Craeybeckx, 1981, The Political History of Belgium since
1830, Antwerp.
Don 't know if any translation exists.
A very pleasant book is The Belgium Labyrint or The Beauty of Deformation,
by former VRT journalist Geert van Istendael, 1989 Amsterdam.
There is a translation avaible in French.
A first survey about Belgium during WO I is De Groote Oorlog by the
historican Sophie De Schaepdrijver. She teaches in North Carolina, USA
The book is published in 1997 Amsterdam/ Antwerp.
According to my collegue there must be a translation into French and/ or
in English. Maybe you can look her up via the Internet.
The content goes also largy about the Flemish Movement.
A good, but not mystified as my collegue puts it, survey about the Flemish
Movement is by Marc Reynebeau, Het Klauwen van de Leeuw, ( The Claws
of the Lion ) The Flemish Identity from the 12 to the 21 century, 1995,
Gent.
Translations !? My collegue thinks not.
An older, somewhat droll book is by Patricia Carson, The Fair Face of
Flanders, Tielt, 1977. English, at the same time is was published in Dutch,
French and German.
A book about Wallonië ( the southern part of the country) by L. Genicot,
Nouvelle histoire de Wallonie, Brussel, 1986.
Only in Frensh I suppose.
Addition,
For the year about that king bussiness I have to check, can 't remerber
when.
But for the record, indeed Belgium is mush more complex than Canada, in
fact, I do remerber reading it somewhere that Canadian politicians, studied
our ways to deal with their problems over there.
Our " consensus " politicy is known worldwide...
Also, if you must have troubles finding the books mentioned above, I am
willing to search them for you here in Belgium and send them to you.... if
all other options were to run out.
Oh, yes Douglas, another way in seeing Belgium is in a surrealistic way,
after all, René Magritte was a son of us...
Just heard another amazing story but I 'll keep it for later.
Best,
Kenneth
( I am, because we are) Dali
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