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Hi again Kenneth
Kenneth Van Oost wrote:
> << Memetics would explain this in the manner as described as above.
> In a way memetics cannot solve the problem as such but can shed a light
> on what processes do evolve and get transmitted in order to come to the
> level of not- understanding eachother as we see today.
> A court ' s decision cannot resolve anything because there is always the
> people 's notion that there is something to hide.
> In order to really solve the problem we have as memetisists the ability to
> show to both parties how their brain functions and therefore their thinking-
> ways work. A solution lies somewhere in the middle where, we as meme-
> tisists play an arbitrary role, both parties will meet and work out a mutual
> solution. A solution, not a consensus because than both parties have one
> more reason to start a new competition.
> Less to nothing is actually resolved by a judgement because, like I said,
> on the one hand the people don 't understand and on the other hand the
> Intellect ignores society.
> For more detail on that subject I have to check my writings....
A third difference recognised in legal theory between Civilian and common law
systems concerns the role of the academic lawyer. This may be less clear cut in
common law today where policy specialists have increasing influence. But the
tradition in common law was anti-intellectual, whereas in Civilian systems
academic lawyers had a prominent role to play. e.g. Kelsen writing one of
Austria's constitutions, serving also as a judge. There are very few academic
lawyers in common law history.
My own sense is that anthropology offers a better language to discuss the issues
I'm interested in. There is a quasi-clincial feel to memetics that does not
seem conducive to 'telling a story' - my approach is to start with the basic
mythology of the system, exploring its theoretical fundamentals and then discuss
the parts of the system that the theory leaves out, really re-stating the story
in a way that is more consistent. This is not really a satisfactory
explanation, I feel, at this moment. But because the two main projects I am
working on entail significant 'charges', I think that the introduction of an
alien theoretical framework would make what I'm writing sound too hostile. A
basic proposition in anthropology is respect for your human subjects. I'm
speaking with them, re-telling their story in hopefully a better way.
Douglas
> Best and enjoy,
>
> Kenneth
>
> ( I am, because we are) maintained
>
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