Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id IAA02864 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:41:24 +0100 Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:36:12 +0100 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Determinism Message-ID: <20010405083612.A986@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <20010404091412.B10999@reborntechnology.co.uk> <008e01c0bce3$3a40d7a0$5eaefea9@rcn.com> <20010404112028.C679@reborntechnology.co.uk> <00b701c0bcf4$e83c9360$5eaefea9@rcn.com> <20010404152036.C675@reborntechnology.co.uk> <011301c0bd1a$068431a0$5eaefea9@rcn.com> <20010404164452.A551@reborntechnology.co.uk> <013401c0bd23$347ebcc0$5eaefea9@rcn.com> <20010404184930.A1269@reborntechnology.co.uk> <013f01c0bd6b$21682e80$5eaefea9@rcn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <013f01c0bd6b$21682e80$5eaefea9@rcn.com>; from agassi@erols.com on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 08:55:38PM -0400 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 08:55:38PM -0400, Aaron Agassi wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Free choices being subjective, then, do not contradict with
> > > > > objective
> > > > > > > > > determinism.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You got it!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now all we have to do is get it clear that subjectivity is not
> > > > > generally
> > > > > > > > inferior (or superior) to objectivity.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What ever are you talking about?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again, I have to spell it out: despite being subjective, freedom
> is
> > > just
> > > > > > as real as -- something real.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Where does superiority or inferiority come into it?
> > > >
> > > > Illusions are generally considered inferior to real phenomena.
> > > >
> > > I don't understand.
> >
> > Don't you prefer reality over dealing with illusions?
> >
> Preference is another question.
I don't think it's entirely rational either, but you'll find there's
quite a widespread preference for objectivity over subjectivity.
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