Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id UAA09744 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:19:42 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:17:09 +0000 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Darwinian evolution vs memetic evolution Message-ID: <20010205201709.A1149@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745C35@inchna.stir.ac.uk>; <20010205190534.A763@reborntechnology.co.uk> <3A7EAD06.3791.B6A566@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: <3A7EAD06.3791.B6A566@localhost>; from joedees@bellsouth.net on Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 01:39:18PM -0600 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 01:39:18PM -0600, joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
> On 5 Feb 2001, at 19:05, Robin Faichney wrote:
>
> > I'm an absolutely convinced compatabilist, myself. When the concepts
> > are properly understood, and differences between alternative
> > explanatory frameworks are fully realised, the naive realist position
> > that free will has to be either an objective fact or pure illusion is
> > left far behind -- we can see that we're free in some senses and not
> > in others.
> >
> We're neither absolutely free nor absolutely determined; Sartre's
> position of absolute freedom was refuted by Merleau-Ponty, who
> stated that freedom could only manifest itself within a field of
> unfreedom with which it could be compared and contrasted -
> otherwise, both terms are rendered bereft of meaning, since they
> only derive meaning from each other, as correlative opposites
> concerning one's lived situation. We are free to type emails, but
> not free to teleport ourselves to Mars.
I did not say we are free only to do some things, or only to some
extent -- that is so obvious as to be needless to say. What I said
was, we are free only in some senses.
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