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Thanks.
Yes, 50,000 years may be too little to see biological evolution -- but we do
know that homo sapiens evolved from earlier forms of homo. Are you
suggesting that that process has stopped, or simply that the last 50,000
years don't reveal biological evolution?
I can think of a lot of changes that have happened socially in the last
50,000 years that I would call markers of social evolution: sedentarization
and farming, empire, distance communication, technological 'symbiosis', etc.
I am of course not suggesting that all of these are wholly 'good' -- only
that they are of evolutionary consequence, and certainly that they are
irreversible.
- Lawrence
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From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
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Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 8:37 AM
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Subject: RE: Evolution of ontogeny
On 02/04/01 21:13, Lawrence DeBivort said this-
>And we have had no evidence so far that the human being has evolved over
>the last 50 or so millennia....
>
>But lots and lots of history to mandate that we haven't.
>
>LdB:
>Can you say more about what you mean here? Thanks
The physical being that is the human ain't changed, to my knowledge,
sparse as it is. And the historical record would indicate that behaviors
and societies haven't changed, either.
_Do_ we have any evidence that homo sapiens sapiens has evolved over the
last 50 millennia?
- Wade
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