Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id JAA22403 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:14:26 GMT Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:21:30 +0000 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: DNA Culture .... Trivia? Message-ID: <20010116152130.A1179@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <200101160153.UAA03658@mail0.lig.bellsouth.net>; <20010116133359.A437@reborntechnology.co.uk> <200101161427.JAA13879@mail0.lig.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: <200101161427.JAA13879@mail0.lig.bellsouth.net>; from joedees@bellsouth.net on Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 08:33:30AM -0600 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 08:33:30AM -0600, Joe E. Dees wrote:
> >
> > Now, how about accepting that the most elegant solution to the L/G
> > dichotomy is to view memes as items of information that are differently
> > _encoded_ in both brain states and behaviours?
> >
> I don't see a dichotomy, as I don't see L memes and G memes as
> mutually contradictory, but rather as the complementary stages of
> a meme's life cycle. The moment either disappears, the meme is
> (eventually) doomed. If it lives inside one's mind but one forbears
> to express it, it dies when the inexpressive carrier dies. If it is
> expressed by that mind but never absorbed by others, it still dies
> when the unconvincing carrier dies. It must go, as Mama's
> squeezebox does (the Who), in..and out..and in..and out..etc.
Yes, L and G are complementary stages, but of what, exactly? What is
this unitary meme that has these different forms? I say it is an item
of information that has different encodings.
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