Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id SAA17751 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:26:15 GMT Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:57:40 +0000 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: DNA Culture .... Trivia? Message-ID: <20010115165740.B4626@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <20010115131438.A3878@reborntechnology.co.uk> <B6887417.6957%bbenzon@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: <B6887417.6957%bbenzon@mindspring.com>; from bbenzon@mindspring.com on Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 10:10:18AM -0500 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 10:10:18AM -0500, William Benzon wrote:
> on 1/15/01 8:14 AM, Robin Faichney at robin@reborntechnology.co.uk wrote:
>
> > only works at a high level of abstraction. At that level, genes and
> > memes between them account for all behaviour.
>
> This is rarified country indeed. But it's not at all clear it works even at
> that level. You have to prove it.
I'm working on it.
> And, at some sufficiently high level it's a elementary particles and forces.
In my view, or perhaps I should say my terminology, that's low level,
not high. But levels of description/explanation, in general, are not
sufficiently understood, which is why my work covers that. I've nothing
relevant published as yet, but anyone who is sufficiently interested can
get chunks of my writings. (I've nothing on the web just now, to avoid
potential rights problems when it comes to conventional publication.)
> >But at lower levels,
> > when you start to look at specific behaviours, you obviously have to
> > take specific factors such as individual psychology into account.
> >
> > If you're one of those people who has no interest in such philosophical
> > considerations -- maybe that's where "loose talk" comes from -- then
> > that will mean little or nothing to you, and I would not waste my time
> > in further discussion of this with you.
>
> Not even philosophy can survive on loose talk.
Obviously not. It even costs lives, or so I hear.
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