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Robin Faichney wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 01:07:25PM -0000, Vincent Campbell wrote:
> > <I don't think it's anthropocentric to acknowledge that humans have
> > certain attributes which set us apart as a species (culture, written
> > language, volition, or whatever). Other attributes set other species and
> > groups apart in their own right. I'm envious of those animals who can flap
> > their limbs and fly, like birds and bats or those animals who can take their
> > oxygen from water.>
> >
> > I agree completely with you here Scott.
>
> I'd be surprised if anyone didn't.
>
SURPRISE, Robin! :-)
I, for one, don't agree with the being "envious... of...birds,,," part of
Scott's statement.
There is anecdotal evidence that most of us are not maximizing the suite of
abilities/limbs we already have. If this is the case, what would lead one to
believe that we would be better off if we could fly? Indeed, *would* we fly if we
could? I think not as much as we might now imagine. I can just see the
commercials now: " How to lose 5 pounds off your wings before summer!" Can you
imagine the additional guilt of having unshapely or fat wings? Further, what of
the security concerns if Scott could just fly - from place to place - without
trace? And should more of us have Scott's ability to spread our wings and fly,
what of air traffic control - especially for the multitudes? And let's not
mention the prospects of getting caught in the path of an airplane! :-) Not to be
overly confrontational in my first post, but for me, until I consistently use the
abilities already extant in me, I refuse to permit myself the luxury of pining
away about non-existent abilities, whether in another species or purely
imaginary. I am not dissatisfied enough with the limbs I have, to want more. -
(Writing this post does remind me that I need to get up and do my soorya namaskar
routine!)
SoulSearcher77 (aka Vincent Wright)
>
> --
> Robin Faichney
> robin@reborntechnology.co.uk
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