Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id VAA06136 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:38:43 GMT Message-Id: <200012162135.QAA20196@mail2.lig.bellsouth.net> From: "Joe E. Dees" <joedees@bellsouth.net> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:41:14 -0600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Our human selves In-reply-to: <20001215184030.B524@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <20001214210640.AAA11984@camailp.harvard.edu@[128.103.125.215]>; from wade_smith@harvard.edu on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 04:07:46PM -0500 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
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Subject: Re: Our human selves
From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk>
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> On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 04:07:46PM -0500, Wade T.Smith wrote:
> > On 12/14/00 14:37, Robin Faichney said this-
> >
> > >All that's special about humans is that we think we are.
> > >
> > >Think about it.
> >
> > Ain't that enough?
>
> That is ENTIRELY a matter of opinion. Like I've said already, this
> is not an objective issue. You're at perfect liberty to view people
> as intrinsically special, against the background of other species --
> just don't claim that's an objective fact.
>
And do not yourself claim that the denial of same is an objective
fact, either. What is strange (in a revealing manner) is that
assumption of either position requires the existence of a
subjectivity that only one side of the debate denies. And if the
sepecies self of homo sapiens self did not evolve phylogenetically
as the species did, as selves emerge ontogenetically (within the
development of each individual), what ever did it do? 'Suddenly
appear', like Karen Carpenter's birds in 'Close To You'?
> --
> Robin Faichney
> robin@reborntechnology.co.uk
>
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