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From: Wade T.Smith <wade_smith@harvard.edu>
To: Memetics Discussion List <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2000 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: Memes and sexuality
> Kenneth Van Oost made this comment not too long ago --
>
> ><< Please explain ! >>
>
> The onset of puberty among girls has been reducing in age for awhile, and
> this is fairly well documented in western (that is, fast food and plenty
> of it) societies. What has been proposed as the mechanism for this
> phenomenon is the increased weights of the population of young girls
> among such communities, since body mass _may_ be a hormonal trigger of
> puberty onset.
>
> Anyway, yes, the age of puberty _is_ and has been, decreasing, among
> girls. I have not seen any relevant studies with any conclusions for
> boys, but it would not be a long reach to hypothesize such a correlation.
>
Wade, thanks for this.
But, does your reply also mean that being skinny is an asexual mechanism,
an unnatural phenomenon !?
So, in analogy with Vincents reply that the UK has the highest rate of
teenage pregnancies in Europe, we can say that those girls has an increa-
sed body weight, and due to that fact they are sexual active at an earlier
age !? Strange though that a biological mechanism on the one hand makes
the onset of puberty possible among girls at a far more younger age then it
has been before, and on the other hand that culture makes those girls not
particular attractive for boys.
In the context of the girls, IMHO that would give rise to inner
conflicts_the
body is ready to get sexual active but what about the mind !?
Is he compatible with the task lying ahead, that is being thick and knowing
that you are thick and possible not attractive for the upper sex, is the
mind
capable to repress that conflict of interest !?
Or does the body and mind give the person other ' qualities ' so that she/
he ' forgets ' that she/he is thick_that is thick people are healthier,
have
more inner force, are in some culture the most wanted persons to be mar-
ried to,...
Anyway, with the conclusion that the age of puberty has been decreasing
among girls, the age of puberty among boys must decrease also_in a way
they have to satisfy the sexual needs of the girls !
Or, are the girls looking for ' older guys ', sure they can gratify the
needs !?
If is that the case, then you have into the population of the youngsters two
separate lines of development:- on the one hand pre-sexual girls and on the
other hand boys who don 't really find girls of their own age to start up
an affair with !!
Don 't you think that is an argument to account for !?
Regards,
Kenneth
(I am, because we are) undoubtedly
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