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From: Dan Plante <dplante@home.com>
Subject: RE: meaning in memetics
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> Dynamic Patterns: The Self-Organization of Brain and Behaviour - J. A. Scott
> Kelso
>
> Creating Mind: How the Brain Works - John E. Dowling
>
> I should say up front that these are difficult to get through (especially
> "Dynamic Patterns") even if you have a mathematical background (which I don't)
> or a technical background (which I do). The thing is, I figure you have to slug
> through this stuff if you want to successfully build a new theory, rather than
> cobble together a straw house with a short half-life built on other people's
> unsubstantiated opinions (which is what this email is, for instance).
>
> After reading these books back-to-back, it's interesting to note how the
> general ideas in each book complement each other, even though Dowling deals
> with biochemical and structural specifics, while Kelso deals with synergistic
> and systemic generalities in a mathematical way. It is also useful to note
> where these works reside in terms of the heirarchy of emergent systems from
> neurobiology to culture: right near the bottom. If anyone is aware of a
> similarly complimentary duo of books, just as grounded in peer-reviewed
> research, but near the other end of the scale (maybe in the fields of
> cognitive-neurophysiology/linguistics/semiotics, etc) I'd be grateful.
>
Try PRINCIPLES OF INTERPRETATION by Edward G. Ballard and
INTERPRETATION THEORY by Paul Ricoeur for the hermeneutic
view, and THE HUMAN USE OF SIGNS: ELEMENTS OF
ANTHROPOSEMIOSIS by John Deely and ON MEANING:
SELECTED WRITINGS IN SEMIOTIC THEORY by A. J. Greimas
for the semiotic perspective.
>
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