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On Sun, 05 Mar 2000, Joe E. Dees wrote:
>From: Robin Faichney <robin@faichney.demon.co.uk>
>Organization: Reborn Technology
>To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: new line: what's the point?
>Date sent: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 05:13:14 +0000
>Send reply to: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>
>> On Fri, 03 Mar 2000, Joe E. Dees wrote:
>> >
>> >>...do you or don't you deny the possibility of
>> >> mechanistic memetic explanations?
>> >>
>> >Not if it involves the excision of meaning (semantics), intention or
>> >selfawareness, but I do not believe it does.
>>
>> You have said that meme selection occurs only via conscious choice. Do you
>> think that is compatable with mechanistic memetic explanation?
>>
>I believe that there can be accidentally or inadvertantly
>communicated (on either or both the transmission and the
>reception end) memes, but the very distinction exists only given
>the prior existence of conscious choice, with which the accidental
>and inadvertant can be compared and contrasted. Most memes,
>and especially successfully selected ones, are transmitted and
>attended to by choice, because to choose to transmit and/or
>receive them is believed to hold some positive value for the
>transmitter/receiver, or to choose to forbear from such memetic
>transmission/reception is believed to hold some negative value for
>the transmitter/receiver, or both.
Please answer the question: is your story compatable with mechanistic memetic
explanation, or not?
As a corollary, or even a prequel, you might consider whether all conscious
activity is accompanied by corresponding neural activity. I'm sure you'll see
the relevance.
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