Re: Monkeys stone herdsman in Kenya

From: Raymond Recchia (rrecchia@mail.clarityconnect.com)
Date: Fri Mar 03 2000 - 06:05:38 GMT

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From: Raymond Recchia <rrecchia@mail.clarityconnect.com>
Subject: Re: Monkeys stone herdsman in Kenya
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 01:05:38 -0500
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    At 10:17 AM 02/28/00 -0500, you wrote:
    >Raymond,
    >
    >I'm a bit puzzled by your comment.
    >
    >Early on, you say:
    >
    >>Just to toss in my two cents on this subject I think we do have to be
    >>careful to distinguish between socially derived behaviors and memes.
    >
    >Could you elaborate? What distinguishing features would you comment upon?
    >
    >Mark
    >
    >
    >
    Couple sentences later I did elaborate

    >> They are the result of the individual adapting
    >> to an enviroment which contains a number of members of the same species.

    I was thinking in particular about the Rhesus monkey studies that E.O.
    Wilson discussed in 'Sociobiology' (Took so long in replying because I had
    to figure out where I had buried my copy) in Chapter 7, the subchapter on
    Socialization. The study discusses the differences between monkeys raised
    with no mother and no peers, a mother but no peers, and peers but no mother.

    The distinction I was trying to make was between learning from an
    environment that contains members of the same species and that is part and
    parcel of being a genetically social organism, and learning passed between
    generations that is part of an extra genetic inheritance.

    Raymond O. Recchia
    Raymond O. Recchia

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