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On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Joe E. Dees wrote:
>>
>Without communication, there can be no memetics, for it is by
>means of communication that memes replicate. What is
>necessary for communication is necessary for memetics.
>Memetic multiplication is effected by means of dissemination,
>which is communication to multiple receivers.
My point is this: given all the existing concepts, such as meaning, and the
whole semiotic toolbag, what purpose does the meme concept serve? What place is
there for a "selfish" replicator in a world of consciously communicating
individual minds? I thought memetics was an alternative scenario. Otherwise,
why bother with memes at all?
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