Re: Dennett article on post-modernism

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Date: Mon 17 Mar 2003 - 17:48:48 GMT

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    Keith Henson

    PS. one of the best stories I know about in relation to battered wives happened between this Apache (Native American) I knew and his Russian wife.
    (This was at least 40 years ago.) After they had been married a while, he beat her up just because it was traditional. She waited till he went to sleep and then banged him on the head with a cast iron frying pan and proceeded to bash him with the edge of the pan a good deal worse than he had beaten her. Next morning when he woke up--very painfully--she handed him the pan and told him it was his turn, but remember he had to sleep. Far as I know, he never hit her again. :-)


    Amazing! My grandmother told me that same story, only it was about different people. I was going to use it in the book of family history I'm writing. She grew up in Indian territory along the Texas-Oklahoma border.

    The capture of men is just as common, historically, as the capture of women.
      The primary difference is that while the women were taken to become wives, the men were taken to become slaves or drafted into the army of their captors. In either case it was adapt or die. I suspect it is also at root of the hated mother-in-law syndrome because in most societies the mom-in-law was in charge of teaching the new bride the rules and customs of the new tribe and discipline was often very strict.

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