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So what is the sense of this group regarding the level of volition existing 
in the relationship between memes ( or memeplexes) and individuals or groups. 
It sounds as if some here are organized by a cluster of  memes leading to the 
belief that we are free to choose the memes we are host to? 
For those of that persuasion is it assumed that we are conscious of all of 
the memes that have staked out mindspace in a host?  
Or is there a developmental aspect to this such that at some levels of 
development an individual or group is pawn-like relative to memes, but where 
in higher developmental stages the cosignoti can pick and choose their noetic 
paracites?
My impression is that one might have a better quality of life when they 
believe that that can choose there memes. But I see so many examples of 
people who believe their thoughts, feelings and behaviors are organized by 
certain ideas, or beliefs when from the outside it appeara that they have 
been in service to something they knew not of. 
I have come to suspect that  some clusters of memes have evolved in such a 
way that some memes organize the individual or group in ways that they are 
conscious of, while the more powerful memes lie hidden and influence in 
insideous ways.Some aspects of alcoholism might me an example. 
Joe
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