Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id BAA19512 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 15 Jan 2002 01:23:53 GMT Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:19:29 -0800 Message-Id: <200201150119.g0F1JTn24024@mail2.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [216.76.250.15] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: RE: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory Perception Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
For a trenchant critique of the constructed myths embodied in Edward Said's work ORIENTALISM, go to:
http://www.newcriterion.com/archive/17/jan99/said.htm
> Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> RE: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory PerceptionDate: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:17:05 -0000
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>
>Hi Keith,
>
>
> <I think in a post analysis the real competition will be seen as
>between
>> "western" culture and everything else. "Western" in this sense includes
>> Japan and the advanced countries of south Asia as well as the more
>> traditional countries. Japan, for example, contributes significant
>> cultural elements to the rest of "Western" culture. "Popular" is another
>> name for it. Religion is not a major element.>
>>
> If only the last sentence were true.
>
> <It's hard to describe all the major elements, but music, fashion,
>movies
>> and TV shows are parts of it. High tech gadgets are part of it, and to a
>> lesser extent, the free market environment it takes to make them. (No way
>>
>> you can do a 5 year plan to produce things nobody has invented yet!)
>>
>> Near as I can tell nobody in power cares if western/popular culture pushes
>>
>> into Islamic culture and displaces it or not. Because it is not static,
>> the older leaders of the western countries usually express disdain for
>> their own popular culture. Can't blame them, piercings give me
>> fantods. (Meme of the day, nipple rings and chain mail is a bad
>> combination.)>
>>
> Try reading Edward Said's book 'Orientalism'. You'll see there
>evidence of a huge amount of cultural, political, economic and so on
>investment in appropriating, containing and controlling oriental culture.
>Who does the European Union regard as a threat socially? The East,
>particularly the Islamic East- look at the reticence of the EU to take
>Turkey's application for membership seriously. What gets Americans cross?
>When Japanese companies start buying up US ones.
>
> Vincent
>
>
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