Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id WAA03091 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-bounces@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 5 Oct 2001 22:21:50 +0100 From: "salice" <salice@gmx.net> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 23:15:59 +0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Memes inside brain In-reply-to: <3BBDFC68.3E73397F@pacbell.net> Message-Id: <E15pcMQ-00036m-00@dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk> Sender: fmb-bounces@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> What I mean is that the memes for treating her children were passed on
> to her *before* she enacted them in real life. This second enactment may
> be called imitation, but it is *not* the imitation by which the memes
> are inherited. That's my point.
Hm i still don't really know what you want to show. Someday the
daughter got treated bad by her mother. She remembered that. Ten or
twenty years later she treats her daughter just the same. So it's
still imitation just delayed in time.
Or did you mean something else?
> >>From Derek's point of view, however, the second enactment is the
> imitation, I expect. However, in that view the meme is the behavior
> itself, not what produces the behavior.
It's actually both!
Take a simple behaviour like uhm raising your hand when you see
someone you know and want to say hi. This behavior is a meme. At the
same time your friend could raise his hand in response too so his
behavior would be a result of your meme/behavior.
A behavior is a meme. Atleast if it can be copied.
A behavior can cause a behavior as a meme can cause a meme.
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