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Dear Salice,
> > Consider the complaint of the
> > young mother that she is treating her children in ways that her mother
> > treated her that she hates. This is a fairly clear case of memetic
> > inheritance, but there is no evidence of imitation.
>
> Well she imitates her mother even if she hates it. There's no reason
> that you have to like what you imitate. As i said before imitation of
> behaviour or meme-selection isn't always a conscious decision-based
> process.
What I mean is that the memes for treating her children were passed on
to her *before* she enacted them in real life. This second enactment may
be called imitation, but it is *not* the imitation by which the memes
are inherited. That's my point.
From Derek's point of view, however, the second enactment is the
imitation, I expect. However, in that view the meme is the behavior
itself, not what produces the behavior.
Best,
Bill
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