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From: Philip Jonkers <P.A.E.Jonkers@phys.rug.nl>
> Just for completeness' sake: what if memes move house from
> the human brain to a meme-processing medium which can warrant
> higher fecundity, frequency and fidelity. If such a medium
> would emerge, memetic evolution would be faster and more profound
> with this medium. Consequently, evolutionary pressures would
> favor the latter medium. That is, the human brain would be
> outclassed by this better meme-juggling entity.
>
> You might have guessed, I'm talking about (smart,AI) computers.
> Susan Blackmore also makes some plausible predictions in
> her Meme-Machine. So does a new meme-vehicle create a new
> category or does it fall under the artifact category?
Hi Philip,
It never stops to amaze me to see how this idea pops up, but I get your
drift.
IMO, I already posted some thoughts about this subject, memes will
evolve further, further in the way that they will stop needing genes.
That in a sense they will tranfer themselves into a freaking container
maintained by themselves. That will be no artifact, but something
more likely like a noösphere, but without its genetic compounds.
IMO, memetic evolution does not have to rely on genes, now yes,
but in the future no !
Memes will dispurse themselves from their biological container and
will live their lives in a memosphere- like environment
A kind of new model for virtual communication will do I suppose.
Stopped to give the idea further thought...
You have to think about memes in a complete new perspective, as
one said " in an Derrida- like way "_ breaking with each context, and
a life of their own...
But, are we memetically up for this !?
Regards,
Kenneth
( I am ,because we are) almost in Korea/ Japan
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