Re: Thesis: Memes are DNA-Slaves

From: Philip Jonkers (P.A.E.Jonkers@phys.rug.nl)
Date: Fri Sep 28 2001 - 16:45:10 BST

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    Kenneth:
    > Memes do not live exclusively in brains.
    > We, on this list, agreed upon the fact that they are two kinds,
    > 1_ the meme in brain, also referred to as the L(ynch) meme, accoding
    > to
    > Aaron Lynch ( see Thought Contaigon, archives)
    >
    > 2_ the memes in artifact, also referred to as the G(atherer) meme,
    > according
    > to Derek Gatherer.

    Hi Kenneth,

    Just for completeness' sake: what if memes move house from
    the human brain to a meme-processing medium which can warrant
    higher fecundity, frequency and fidelity. If such a medium
    would emerge, memetic evolution would be faster and more profound
    with this medium. Consequently, evolutionary pressures would
    favor the latter medium. That is, the human brain would be
    outclassed by this better meme-juggling entity.

    You might have guessed, I'm talking about (smart,AI) computers.
    Susan Blackmore also makes some plausible predictions in
    her Meme-Machine. So does a new meme-vehicle create a new
    category or does it fall under the artifact category?

    Philip.

    ps. Regarding your remark on soccer, you are right but I don't
    care (about soccer) :-)

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