Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id RAA28355 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:55:02 +0100 Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:38:56 +0100 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Determinism Message-ID: <20010413163856.B1851@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <3AD4D47D.5030.1CDB35@localhost>; <20010412124406.A1829@reborntechnology.co.uk> <3AD60CB8.15208.7F3967@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3AD60CB8.15208.7F3967@localhost>; from joedees@bellsouth.net on Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 08:14:48PM -0500 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 08:14:48PM -0500, joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
> On 12 Apr 2001, at 12:44, Robin Faichney wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 10:02:37PM -0500, joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > > > Scientific conclusion: A (the higher announced decision) causes B
> > > (the accessing of the particular area of the supporting lower >
> > material substrate). Once again, it's called science...
> >
> > I thought you said causal chains can't be traced in such complex
> > systems as the mind/brain?
> >
> Not precisely, down to the specific neurons, axons, synapses and
> codings involved, but to the general cortical areas subtending
> particular cognitive functions, such as modes of perception or
> memory, yes. We are ourselves the self-testified ("I;m gonna read
> the text now, I'm gonna listen to the music now, etc.) causes of
> these PET-scan recorded neural effects.
So we can't actually trace causality, but we can suppose it to exist
wherever it seems to be required? That's convenient.
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