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On 13 Apr 2001, at 16:38, Robin Faichney wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 08:14:48PM -0500, joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > On 12 Apr 2001, at 12:44, Robin Faichney wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr
> 11, 2001 at 10:02:37PM -0500, joedees@bellsouth.net wrote: > > > >
> Scientific conclusion: A (the higher announced decision) causes B > >
> > (the accessing of the particular area of the supporting lower > > >
> material substrate). Once again, it's called science... > > > > I
> thought you said causal chains can't be traced in such complex > >
> systems as the mind/brain? > > > Not precisely, down to the specific
> neurons, axons, synapses and > codings involved, but to the general
> cortical areas subtending > particular cognitive functions, such as
> modes of perception or > memory, yes. We are ourselves the
> self-testified ("I;m gonna read > the text now, I'm gonna listen to
> the music now, etc.) causes of > these PET-scan recorded neural
> effects.
>
> So we can't actually trace causality, but we can suppose it to exist
> wherever it seems to be required? That's convenient.
>
We can't specify which sound wave of the dynamite caused the
avalanche, but we can reasonably conclude that the explosion had
something to do with it.
> --
> Robin Faichney
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> (CAUTION: contains philosophy, may cause heads to spin)
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