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From: Aaron Agassi <agassi@erols.com>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Determinism
> Why does perfect knowledge negate freedom?
> More precisely, perfect knowledge would negate choice. Because the more
one
> knows, this tends to narrow one's choices. -Down to the one optimal
> decision, given adequate knowledge. And perfect knowledge would certainly
be
> adequate!
<< Just buzzin ' in here,
Just a question, if you write perfect knowledge would negate choise, is
that than the choise you can or would or should make, or do you mean
that by having perfect knowledge that you negate the choises of others !?
IMO, the second is some what closer to some truth, because people
with perfect knowledge can not only perfect predict the outcome of what-
ever system and thereby the possible behavior of those involved but have
than also the power to " change " in their favor the system.
I have doubts that people with perfect knowledge would shown predictable
behavior in the first place. In your comments to Vincent you wrote that
freedom is characterized by predictable behavior, but that only counts
for those on the bottom of the latter...for those who are ( by their own
freedom or by their own free will) than be called predictable.
But who will " control " those with the perfect knowledge?
Dissipations and excesses will be there forever.
Best
Kenneth
( I am, because we are) free
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