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From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 11:55 AM
Subject: RE: taboos
> Again, urban myth in the sense that it works. In Bush's case, not least
in
> the sense that people saw it- in other words it wasn't subliminal enough!
> But that's why it's a silly idea in the first place because it works on
the
> basis that the less you are aware of the image/message being sent, the
more
> powerful its effects on you.
Hi Vincent, you wrote,
The logical endpoint here is by not showing
> anything at all you'll have complete control over people.
<<Yes, this would be very close to the truth, though !!
On the other hand, making people believe that something isn 't there,
would make the people " believe " that there is really something...a reason
to jump to legislation !?
Like, here in my country, the politicians and the police did not find " any
evidence " for the existence of paedophilia networks.
In the us surrounding countries the police/ politicians found at least one.
So, instead of not believing, the people started to ' believe ' in a
manipu-
lation cover- up from out the state !?
And for that matter, now with the foot-and- mouth disease running loose,
in England you can 't control it anymore, in Germany, France and Holland
there are farms found, but in Belgium... none !!
On the one hand, we all think that our politicians made a good job of it,
keeping the disease out, but...and than again that is a " believe " we all
share, there
has to somewhere a catch.... somewhere isn 't right !!
That kind of ' believing ' we do a lot... we don 't " believe " in the
full
meaning of the word, but we find it difficult to see it like it is, that
is...that
Belgium is disease free... We don 't buy it !!
Everytime there is something going on out of the ordinary, we search for
something ' behind ' the scenes...
Strange country, strange people....all due to our history I presume....
Best regards,
Kenneth
( I am, because we are)
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