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From: "Robin Faichney" <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: Determinism
> On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 04:33:34PM +0100, Vincent Campbell wrote:
> > That might negate my freedom, but surely it enhances yours?
>
> If what we're discussing is determinism, then the point is that, if
> you were perfectly knowable, then determinism would be true (of you,
> at least).
>
> However, I also go along with Aaron in saying that if I'm omniscient
> then I always know what the best course of action is and I have no choice
> but to take that course.
>
> You are free because you are not perfectly knowable, and I am free
> because I'm uncertain.
>
> (Actually, being *basically* similar, we're both free for both reasons.)
>
Yes, freedom is subjective.
Again, what is uncertainty, except imperfect knowledge? Mythic
Indeterminacy, after all, is quite another matter.
> --
> Robin Faichney
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