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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Taylor" <Christopher.Taylor@man.ac.uk>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: Determinism
> Robin Faichney wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:44:15AM +0100, Chris Taylor wrote:
> > > > > > Prove it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ocam's Razor:
> > > > > In explanation, don't multiply entities unnecessarily. Causality
is
> > > > > sufficient. The burden of evidentiary support rests upon the
positive. It's
> > > > > not for anyone else to prove that there ISN'T an unnecessary
redundant
> > > > > additional unknown factor aside from causality.
> > > >
> > > > "An unnecessary redundant additional unknown factor" is redundant
(as
> > > > well as incoherent). I'm only suggesting that perhaps some events
don't
> > > > have a cause. In this case, "there is nothing which happens that
does
> > > > not have a cause" is the positive upon which the burden of
evidentiary
> > > > support rests.
> > >
> > > This is science not law - that means (strictly speaking) you have to
> > > disprove my assertion (my surmise of my general experience of the
> > > world).
> >
> > Why?
>
> Cos, er, that's the way it usually works. Put up a theory, then consider
> it to be provisionally true until killed by the usual ugly little fact.
> Darwinian evolution would be a good example.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Chris Taylor (chris@bioinf.man.ac.uk)
> http://bioinf.man.ac.uk/ »people»chris
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
Truth is the correspondence of statements to reality. That's objective, not
"provisional" (sic).
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