Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id LAA28006 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:28:40 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:15:23 +0100 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Determinism Message-ID: <20010404111523.A679@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <3AC904E5.10167.246146@localhost> <3AC9A569.258C00E9@bioinf.man.ac.uk> <20010403122328.A661@reborntechnology.co.uk> <3AC9D88B.47D228B1@bioinf.man.ac.uk> <20010403214234.A699@reborntechnology.co.uk> <005c01c0bc8e$bc8e6380$5eaefea9@rcn.com> <20010404090223.A10999@reborntechnology.co.uk> <009501c0bce4$00b681a0$5eaefea9@rcn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <009501c0bce4$00b681a0$5eaefea9@rcn.com>; from agassi@erols.com on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 04:48:21AM -0400 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 04:48:21AM -0400, Aaron Agassi wrote:
>
> > "An unnecessary redundant additional unknown factor" is redundant (as
> > well as incoherent). I'm only suggesting that perhaps some events don't
> > have a cause. In this case, "there is nothing which happens that does
> > not have a cause" is the positive upon which the burden of evidentiary
> > support rests.
> >
> No, it is a competing hypothesis, yes, also positive, upon which the burden
> of evidentiary support also rests. A burden of evidentiary support which is
> met, to a high degree, by a countless tally of demonstrably caused results.
> And no other sort.
>
> Or is there any example of a confirmed uncaused result? Is the hypothesis
> that there is any such thing, even testable?
While I'm no expert in the area, it is my impression that the concensus
of opinion among physicists is that such events do occur.
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