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From: "Robin Faichney" <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: Determinism
> On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 04:48:21AM -0400, Aaron Agassi wrote:
> >
> > > "An unnecessary redundant additional unknown factor" is redundant (as
> > > well as incoherent). I'm only suggesting that perhaps some events
don't
> > > have a cause. In this case, "there is nothing which happens that does
> > > not have a cause" is the positive upon which the burden of evidentiary
> > > support rests.
> > >
> > No, it is a competing hypothesis, yes, also positive, upon which the
burden
> > of evidentiary support also rests. A burden of evidentiary support which
is
> > met, to a high degree, by a countless tally of demonstrably caused
results.
> > And no other sort.
> >
> > Or is there any example of a confirmed uncaused result? Is the
hypothesis
> > that there is any such thing, even testable?
>
> While I'm no expert in the area, it is my impression that the concensus
> of opinion among physicists is that such events do occur.
>
Indeed?
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