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Scott,
At 12:00 PM 2/17/01 -0500, you wrote:
>The tendency to apply a hardcore genetic analogy on cultural phenomenon
>could be riddled with problems.
Hm, sounds like something to talk about. I don't see particularly
difficult problems.
> First off, how does one pply the notion of a germ-line to "memes",
> beyond saying that biologically speaking, it hasn't been shown that ideas
> can pass from soma to germ cells to be inherited by the progeny.
As usual, I'm using the neural-meme, so the problem of ideas passing to
soma is not a problem. In neural-meme theory, the neural system is
partially self-organizing due to energy being passed through the system
(energy flow is produces self-organization of the media it passes
through). The genetic framework provides the substrate, the
self-organization produces the earliest memory organization. As the neural
memory gets larger and more refined, it starts recording memories of
environmental stimuli, allowing cultural replication.
Ideas are the phenotypes of neural-memes, memory organization (neural-meme
based) is the genotype.
Mark
http://www.htcomp.net/markmills
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