Re: Darwinian evolution vs memetic evolution

From: Bill Spight (bspight@pacbell.net)
Date: Fri Feb 09 2001 - 19:27:26 GMT

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    From: Bill Spight <bspight@pacbell.net>
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    Dear Robin,

    > > But there is no germ line with memes. "Play it, Sam, for old times'
    > > sake," is altered by the environment to "Play it again, Sam," and the
    > > alteration is passed on. That's Lamarckian evolution.
    >
    > Your logic works either way. If there is no germ line, no memeotype/
    > phemotype dichotomy, then is no way to distinguish between Lamarckism and
    > ordinary mutation.

    Ah, but there is. Memes are altered in such a way that they fit the
    environment better. Their survivability is enhanced. That is not so with
    random mutation. Au contraire: random mutation is detrimental, on
    average.

    Best,

    Bill

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