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Bill Spight wrote:
>
> Dear Wade,
>
> > >"Play it, Sam, for old times'
> > >sake," is altered by the environment to "Play it again, Sam," and the
> > >alteration is passed on. That's Lamarckian evolution.
> >
> > Or "Play it, Sam" becomes "Play it again, Sam" because forces from the
> > environment gave it no other choice.
> >
> > Lamarck didn't have a thing to do with it. There were no necks straining
> > to reach the treetops.
> >
>
> Ah! The light begins to dawn. :-)
>
> Lamarckian evolution has two distinguishing characteristics: 1)
> inheritance of adaptations (not just selection); 2) intentional
> adaptation (which is then inherited). We are focusing on different
> aspects. For me, 1) is sufficient to make evolution Lamarckian; for you
> 2) is necessary. A question of terminology, no?
>
In an essay that is coming out in a book published this month, I
distinguish 3 kinds of Lamarckism: Type 1 (soft inheritance), Type 2
(intentional and directed variation) and Type 3 (progressive evolution).
I can send a PDF of a penultimate draft to anyone who is interested, and
excerpts of it were posted in the talk.origins newsgroup < http://x56.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=651195767>
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