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On 7 Feb 2001, at 11:33, Vincent Campbell wrote:
> >> I agree that is worth noting, and for my money one is also
> one of > >>the most interesting things Blackmore's book says. I'm not
> sure I agree > >>with her position, but I've always been rather
> suspicious of free will. >
> <That's your choice...or is it?>
>
> Well, as I said in a post to Joe, my suspicions are based on debates
> about freedom in political philosophy, rather that cognitive
> psychology or neurology. I think there are lots of social behaviours
> that people regard as product of free will and personal choice that
> are actually constrained and controlled in ways that most people are
> enirely unaware of, not least the 'freedoms' of the political systems
> people live in (including democracy).
>
> Vincent
>
Your view that sociopolitical institutions suppres our freedom does
not address the contention that it is cognitively and somatically
present to be suppressed. If it did not exist in the first place, the
governmental form would not matter at all, since no form of
government can suppress a nonexistent freedom.
>
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