Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id NAA25484 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:00:44 GMT Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:56:24 +0000 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Labels for memes Message-ID: <20010201125624.B487@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745C26@inchna.stir.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745C26@inchna.stir.ac.uk>; from v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk on Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:53:07AM -0000 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:53:07AM -0000, Vincent Campbell wrote:
> >> All sorts of processes both external and internal go into
> audience
> > >> decoding of media content, so much so that I just don't see how what
> > >> apparently exists in one mind can appear in another mind (let alone
> > millions
> > >> of others) in exactly the same form as in the original mind.
> >
> <But I don't think anyone is saying it's in exactly the same form.>
>
> Ok, but this is one of the problems I have with the meme in mind
> idea, as I'm not sure how the meme in mind is actually seen.
>
> The notion of the meme involves, as far as I understand it, a
> particular configuration of information that induces it to be expressed (by
> the person it originates in) and then imitated by people exposed to its
> expression. But in order for it to be then passed on to others from those
> first infected people, surely the configuration must be retained in order
> for it to induce expression in those people, and then imitation in others,
> and so on?
>
> We're talking about a particular kind of information that induces
> particular kinds of behaviours, surely there must be some consistency of
> form or pattern in order for it to be transmissable across many generations
> of hosts?
Some consistency, yes. But where's the problem with that?
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