Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id SAA21844 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:50:22 GMT Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:05:14 +0000 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Labels for memes Message-ID: <20010131150514.C11570@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745C1F@inchna.stir.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745C1F@inchna.stir.ac.uk>; from v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk on Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 12:42:09PM -0000 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 12:42:09PM -0000, Vincent Campbell wrote:
> <The information has to exist, but not the meme. The meme stays
> right in the
> > head of the ad exec for Budweiser. He pays someone to do a TV commercial,
> > it
> > gets broadcast, information gets transmitted, and suddenly a million new
> > copies of the "Wazzuuuuup?" meme get created in new minds.>
> >
> Sorry to butt in, but this is an interesting discussion. I like the
> phrase here 'suddenly a million new copies...'. The million dollar
> question, though is 'how?' One problem with such examples is that they
> ignore the many models of the mass communication process...
Sorry Vincent, but while I sympathise that we might be ignoring your
expertise, I don't see that anything you say here impacts the main
issue: the informational nature of the meme and its transmission.
If we can agree on that, then we can address the complexities of mass
communications.
> <Not all memes are behaviors, for example the classic "belief in
> God." >
>
> Well, views on this one have been fully expressed before. IMHO
> 'God' is a meme, belief in him/her/it is not.
I don't know. I think that could be considered communicable behaviour.
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