Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id KAA09937 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:18:40 GMT Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 09:45:20 +0000 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Labels for memes Message-ID: <20010128094520.B566@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745C0F@inchna.stir.ac.uk> <JJEIIFOCALCJKOFDFAHBMEEPCDAA.richard@brodietech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: <JJEIIFOCALCJKOFDFAHBMEEPCDAA.richard@brodietech.com>; from richard@brodietech.com on Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 11:53:16PM -0800 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 11:53:16PM -0800, Richard Brodie wrote:
> > memes in the head (sometimes called L-memes
> If, as it appears, the word "meme" must be muddied to include replicators
> other than mental information, and distinctions must be drawn (as they
> should be) among different kinds of cultural replicators, perhaps "D-meme"
> would be a better label for mental replicators, since Dawkins first
> published that definition for meme in The Extended Phenotype and Dennett
> elaborated on it beautifully in Darwin's Dangerous Idea.
Hi Richard. I think I told you before, but you may have forgotten,
in Consciousness Explained Dennett says explicitly that one phase of
the meme's existence is external to the mind/brain, in behaviour.
Of course, Dawkins was amiguous about this in The Selfish Gene, as
well. I'd say these waters _are_ muddy, already!
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