Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id PAA05371 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:00:26 GMT Message-ID: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745C0D@inchna.stir.ac.uk> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Memes and emotions Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:59:19 -0000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Chris,
Can you do us a favour, and snip in a bit of the previous post you're
replying to each time you post, as these threads get very confusing
sometimes.
Cheers.
> ----------
> From: Chris Taylor
> Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 12:01 pm
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: Memes and emotions
>
> It's the old view of the world (started with the Greeks and only really
> got altered
> by the Enlightenment-era French biologists such as Cuvier: There is a
> hierarchy with
> slime at the bottom and angels in heaven at the top; we come just below
> angels (these
> were religious people - angels exist [no joke!], and are better than
> mortals), then
> (roughly) animals, plants, mould and finally dirt (officially dead). This
> is the
> classic linearised classification system as adopted from the Greeks by
> Christianity.
> Linnaeus and Cuvier were instrumental in moving towards a more realistic
> branched
> 'Tree of life', on the way to a modern view.
>
> I (flippantly) used the image because it assisted in the point I was
> trying to make
> that memes only work well in us (recombining parts of ideas), the next
> link down the
> great chain is where they can imitate well but not 'think' as we do, then
> you get
> down to individual learners who do not share experience (paralelling the
> argument
> about asexual clonal reproduction being far inferior to sexual), and
> finally the
> hard-wired often non-neural behaviour of simple organisms.
>
> Gotta go to a meeting - hope that covers it all!
> Chris.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Chris Taylor (chris@bioinf.man.ac.uk)
> http://bioinf.man.ac.uk/ »people»chris
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