Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id NAA04790 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:20:45 GMT Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:40:34 +0000 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Now They're Singing a Different Song Message-ID: <20010119124034.A1745@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <20010119035512.AAA4496@camailp.harvard.edu@[204.96.32.110]> <00de01c081cf$e11a8980$5eaefea9@cable.rcn.com> <20010119100418.B509@reborntechnology.co.uk> <011601c0820d$542572e0$5eaefea9@cable.rcn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: <011601c0820d$542572e0$5eaefea9@cable.rcn.com>; from agassi@erols.com on Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 06:45:32AM -0500 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 06:45:32AM -0500, Aaron Agassi wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 11:25:39PM -0500, Aaron Agassi wrote:
> > > Yes, but does this help to explain any Memetic equivalent?
> >
> > The question begged by it, to my mind, is whether speciation can be
> > meme-driven. On the face of it, it would seem so.
>
> Only if bird songs are regarded as Memetic rather than Neurological,
> genetic, Physical information in Nature.
>
> But this problem does not arise, if Nature, all, is acknowledged as Memetic,
> and Empirical experience as Memetic replication or template from reality.
> That not only are memes replicated, Memetically, but physical information
> transmits into Memetics, much as RNA and DNA interchange. But with greater
> mutation and loss.
>
> In other words, to remember that Memetics is only a branch of Mimetics.
> Cultural replication is only a special case of replication in general. Not
> dichotomous at all.
Diesel is only a special case of vehicle fuel in general. But I'm
careful not to put it in my petrol tank, even so. Sometimes distinctions
are useful.
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