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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Lofting" <ddiamond@ozemail.com.au>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: ....and the beat goes on and on and on...
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> > Of Joe E. Dees
> > Sent: Friday, 19 January 2001 10:25
> > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > Subject: RE: ....and the beat goes on and on and on...
> >
> >
> > From: "Chris Lofting" <ddiamond@ozemail.com.au>
> > To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> > Subject: RE: ....and the beat goes on and on and on...
> > Date sent: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:18:17 +1100
> > Send reply to: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk
> > [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> > > > Of Joe E. Dees
> > > > Sent: Friday, 19 January 2001 8:22
> > > > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > > > Subject: RE: ....and the beat goes on and on and on...
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I should know it is impossible to instruct the brainless
> > (sigh), but I'll
> > > > try again...
> > > > WHAT IS NOT deals with what cannot happen in the present.
> > > > WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN deals with what might have happened
> > > > in the past.
> > > > WHAT COULD BE deals with what might still happen in the future.
> > > > As the first term, WHAT IS NOT, possesses a negative not found
> > > > in WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN and WHAT COULD BE, they do
> > > > not correlate as isomorphic expressions in differing time contexts;
> > > > WHAT MAY or MIGHT (now) BE IS THEIR LOGICAL
> > > > COMPLEMENT.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Oh is *THAT* what you are raving about, symmetry! 1:1 ness!.
> > God, Joe took
> > > you a while to get that across. Ok I get you now but you are
> > sort of 'wrong'
> > > :-) In my writing the emphasis of the NOT deals with an
> > additional cognitive
> > > process, namely the use of identifying something by its
> > negation (if you go
> > > through my material there is an emphasis on 1:many etc and cognitive
> > > processes ..).
> > >
> > > Hmm..I think the 'problem' in our communications is you try to
> > come from a
> > > more logical perspective (or assume mine is 'pure' logic)
> > whereas in fact I
> > > have always come from a cognitive perspective. (and so my emphasis on
> > > neurology/senses etc 1:many etc etc etc, you try to work within, I
work
> > > across).
> > >
> > I need read no further. Once you have renounced logic, you lose
> > the ability to argue for or against anything, since all argument
> > proceeds logically. I have long suspected you of knowing how
> > illogical and nonsensical you are; I never expected you to actually
> > admit same. However, now that you have rendered yourself
> > publicly unabledue to lack of logical tools, to distinguish truth from
> > falsehood, or to discern either validity or soundness, or the
> > absence of either, you are revealed to be absolutely useless to any
> > rational pursuits.
>
> Joe, you lack imagination. You are so rigid, so ALL or NOTHING, so literal
> minded. so LIMITED. Get some help.
>
True, Logic demarcates certain possibilities as mutually exclusive. Thus
rationality can be rigid. Where as antirational Relativism is just fuzzy and
mush minded.
> >
>
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