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> <...There can be no such thing as an
> > absolutely isolated meaning.>
> >
yes there can - it is called psychosis.
The behaviour of a severe psychotic shows actions with intent and responses
with understanding but it is all 'in here'; the responses are to things 'we'
find 'crazy' but the emotional expressions 'resonate'.
Meaning is IN HERE, it is made up of patterns of emotion combined with a
method of analysis, a method of map making. Thus 'random' sensory processes
can give you a 'deja vu' feeling just as temporal lobe thunderstorms can
make you see the face of 'god'.
It is all happening 'in here' and that includes the minds of the physically
impaired to a degree where they cannot explicitly express anything. In that
context you have an isolated meaning :-)
You do not learn 'basic' meanings from society, these meanings are already
encoded, the brain is not a tabla rasa at birth, it can distinguish objects
and relationships - what it learns is what IS an object and what IS a
relationship.
Chris.
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