Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id DAA17552 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 11 Dec 2000 03:53:10 GMT Message-Id: <200012110350.WAA14319@mail5.lig.bellsouth.net> From: "Joe E. Dees" <joedees@bellsouth.net> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 21:55:29 -0600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: virus: Psychological Profile of Hall, Pt. II X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
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> If we work arse-about, from an analysis of DYNAMICS, then we
note that the
> brain works through oscillations (left-right-left-right, there are no
threes
> in this other than those that EMERGE from the process and so
are derived..)
> Our thinking processes involve taking the static BOTH/AND
characteristics of
> left brain and right brain being expressed at the same time and
resolving
> these statics into dynamic EITHER/OR states (which reflect
1:many
> relationships abstracted to the concept of A/~A). We identify
things, etc,
> we particularise (and so seek EITHER/OR expressions) by
working from a set
> of potentials (aka the excluded middle we find in logic, what
COULD be) that
> exist in BOTH/ANDness and extracting one of those potentials,
acualising it
> (what IS or is interpreted as IS).
>
There are at least three different basic, and natural, brain divisions.
The longitudinal (front-back) scheme locates conception anterior to
the Sylvan Fissure in the frontal lobes, and perception in the
temporal, occipital and parietal lobes posterior to it. The afferent
and efferent (sensory and motor) nerves meet at the fissure.The
hemispherical (left-right) scheme states that the unfamiliar is
grasped holistically in the right brain until it is coherent enough to
be assigned a definition which can then be transferred by the
corpus callosum, filed and analyzed. The sagital-cortical (inner-
outer) scheme asserts that the central R-complex controls
automatic function, outside of which is the limbic system, the seat
of emotions, and where value is assigned to memories, with the
cerebral cortex overlaying it all, and interfaced with vertical stacks
of cells (microtubules) reaching from center to periphery. Of these
three schemes, the left-right is the least telling; people are born
without a hemisphere, and can tolerate one being removed, or
having their cerebral commissures (corpus callosum) severed, but if
you remove the forebrain, hindbrain, cortex, limbic system or R-
complex, you are left with a cadaver or a vegetable.
>
> Mental experiences are derived from biases in the oscillations
where over
> time X we accumulate an so 'spend' more time in the 'right brain'
than in
> the 'left brain'. These oscillation processes and their affect on
mental
> states is well documented. From a philosophical/anthropological
emphasis see
> Gregory Bateson's "Mind and Nature" especially the last section
discussing
> form and process. From a more recent neurological perspective
see the work
> of Prof Jack Pedigrew at the University of Queensland and his
research into
> bi-polar disorders and hemispheric switching:
>
Your simplistic misappropriation of Bateson does violence to his
work. Your simplistic focus upon one (and the consensus least
important, if trendy for a while) of the three natural organizational
patterns found in brains does violence to the organ itself.
>
> http://www.uq.edu.au/nuq/jack/jack.html
>
>
> G Spencer-Brown's "Laws of Form" describes Spencer-Brown's
indicative
> calculus and the use of imaginary boolean values, required to
describe
> oscillations processes. (Spencer-Brown makes the point that "In
ordinary
> algebra, complex values are accepted as a matter of course, and
the more
> advanced techniques would be impossible without them. In
Boolean algebra
> (and thus, for example, in all our reasoning processes) we
disallow them" (p
> xiii "Laws of Form" 1972,1979 Dutton))
>
The so-called laws of form are an interesting mathematical system
that no one has done much with since the publication.
>
> These concepts where extended by L H Kauffman and F J Varela
in 1980 (see
> "Form Dynamics" IN Journal of Social Biological Structures 1980
3, 171-206)
>
I prefer to consider more recent and detailed works (whole books -
gasp!) such as Stuart Kaufmann's THE ORIGINS OF ORDER
(1993, 709pp.) and AT HOME IN THE UNIVERSE (1995, 321 pp.),
and John H. Holland's HIDDEN ORDER (1995, 185 pp.) and
EMERGENCE 1998, 258 pp.). Holland is a colleague of
Kaufmann's at the Santa Fe Institute.
As I stated before, you have nothing to teach me, and refuse to
learn anything from anybody. I addressed your contentions this
one time (cut into two so I would not send over 30K and bounce, as
your avalanche of nonsense almost never leaves anyone room to
reply as to exactly WHY it is nonsense) just to clearly and
unequivocably demonstrate how flawed and puerile they are, but
will have nothing to say to you in the future, because, quite frankly,
you're not worth my time and fingertip callouses.
>
> See also such websites as http://www.xenodochy.org/formal/ etc.
>
> - Chris.
> ------------------
> Chris Lofting
> websites:
> http://www.eisa.net.au/~lofting
> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ddiamond
>
>
>
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