RE: Fwd: Thinking Like a Chimp

From: Gatherer, D. (Derek) (D.Gatherer@organon.nhe.akzonobel.nl)
Date: Thu Nov 16 2000 - 16:12:08 GMT

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    Mark:
    Cast in memetic terms, perhaps the
    genetic difference (between chimp and human neural systems) is only a
    change in the length of development. The additional cognitive abilities
    are additional neural memes stuffed into the brain.

    Derek:
    But this can't be so. There is more to cognitive abilities than just
    storage of some inner somethings. That, as I have pointed out before, is a
    pre-Chomskian view of the mind that went out in the mid-50s. I do apologise
    to be so boring about this, but I just don't seem to be able to get the
    point across. We would need to have infinite-sized brains 'to stuff in' all
    the inner memes for our infinitely variable linguistic capabilities.
    Mind-as-storage models (call the thing that's stored a mnemon, a meme or
    whatever) just won't work and no serious cog psych or neurobiologist has
    believed this for the last 45-odd years at least.

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