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From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf Of
Wade T.Smith
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 5:44 AM
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Subject: RE: Tests show a human side to chimps
On 11/13/00 15:25, Mark Mills said this-
>The 'neural meme' position revises the above slightly. 'Imitated behavioral
>characteristics' are 'neural meme phenotypes.'
I think my main question (one I've been carrying on this road all along,
as it seems) is- isn't there a reason to need a 'theory of mind' then,
before one can start a 'theory of memetics'?
If imitative behavioral characteristics would appear to be within and
constrained by a biologic and developmental organism (a bird, i.e.), and
culture would appear to be a niche of the adapted environment, then where
(and why...) does one bring in memetics?
- Wade
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